Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 106

04/07/2015 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 77 DISABILITY:ID/LICENSE AND TRAINING RQMTS. TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 77(STA) Out of Committee
*+ HJR 19 CONST. AM: APPROPRIATIONS FROM CBR TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 19 Out of Committee
*+ HB 173 REGISTRATION OF LEASED VEHICLES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 55 COMPENSATION FOR WRONGFUL CONVICTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 55 Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
             HB 173-REGISTRATION OF LEASED VEHICLES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:10:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  next order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 173,  "An Act  relating to  the registration  of leased                                                               
motor vehicles; and providing for an effective date."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:11:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS, as  prime sponsor,  introduced HB
173.  He  said the proposed legislation would  address a loophole                                                               
related to  leasing certain vehicles.   The issue was  brought to                                                               
the sponsor's  attention by one of  his constituents.  He  said a                                                               
person   who  leases   a  vehicle   ends  up   paying  commercial                                                               
registration  fees,  which  are  substantially  higher  than  the                                                               
registration fees a vehicle owner pays.   He said in the last few                                                               
weeks, he realized that the  extent of the proposed changes under                                                               
HB 173 would  be dramatic, and he ventured  that consideration of                                                               
the fiscal  note may result  in the committee's taking  its "foot                                                               
off the accelerator."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BERETT  WILBER,  Staff,   Representative  Kreiss-Tomkins,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  answered questions  during the hearing  on HB
173, on  behalf of Representative Kreiss-Tomkins,  prime sponsor.                                                               
In  response to  Chair Lynn,  she  explained that  when a  person                                                               
leases  a vehicle,  the DMV  considers it  a commercial  vehicle,                                                               
irrespective of how the person leasing  the vehicle uses it.  For                                                               
example, if a  person leases a truck to use  as a family vehicle,                                                               
the DMV would  require the person to  pay commercial registration                                                               
fees on the truck because it was being leased.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN said  he thought when he leased a  vehicle 12-15 years                                                               
ago, the  [registration] fee had  been the same  as it was  for a                                                               
privately owned vehicle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:14:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY  ERICKSON,  Director,  Division   of  Motor  Vehicles  (DMV),                                                               
Department   of  Administration   (DOA),  explained   that  under                                                               
statute, a  vehicle that  is owned by  a company  pays commercial                                                               
fees, and  vehicles that are leased  are owned by a  company.  In                                                               
response  to  Representative  Stutes,   she  confirmed  that  the                                                               
company name was  the name of the firm from  which the person was                                                               
leasing the vehicle.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:15:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILBER offered her understanding  that a typical lease length                                                               
ranges from  two to five years.   She said new  to the discussion                                                               
between  sponsor  and staff  was  figuring  out  what to  do  for                                                               
shorter  lease  periods  or  rentals, and  she  deferred  to  Ms.                                                               
Erickson to  address that  question.  In  response to  a question                                                               
from Representative  Vazquez, she clarified  that HB 173  did not                                                               
list any specific lease periods;  therefore, she said she did not                                                               
feel comfortable stating how long a specific lease would be.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ concluded  that  hypothetically a  person                                                               
could lease a vehicle for just  a week and [be charged commercial                                                               
registration fees].                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:17:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES   asked  if  a  person   required  to  pay                                                               
commercial registration  fees would  also be  required to  pay to                                                               
insure the vehicle at the commercial level.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  noted that the  property taxes on  a house                                                               
may not  be visible  in the  rent payment.   He said  he observed                                                               
while  reading the  proposed legislation  that the  person paying                                                               
the tax  would be  the person  leasing the vehicle.   He  said he                                                               
assumed  the company  who  owned the  vehicles  could design  the                                                               
lease contract  "to emphasize the tax  or not."  He  stated, "...                                                               
It's  not necessarily  that we  are currently  taxing individuals                                                               
who happen to  lease; we tax ... commercial  companies that lease                                                               
cars."  He noted there are  different variations of risks for the                                                               
company and the person leasing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:19:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON stated the following:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     With a rental car,  ... they're commercial vehicles and                                                                    
     they  pay commercial  fees.   Whereas, if  you lease  a                                                                    
     vehicle,  ... presumably  the company  would be  paying                                                                    
     the higher  fee for  the commercial rate,  because they                                                                    
     are  the ones  who are  leasing the  vehicle, but  they                                                                    
     pass  it  on  to  the  consumer.    So,  I  agree  with                                                                    
      Representative Keller, who said you could apply that                                                                      
       to your contract; I think that's probably the most                                                                       
     appropriate way to handle it."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  told Representative Vazquez that  DMV registrations                                                               
are for two years or could be one year for a commercial vehicle.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN closed public testimony on  HB 173.  He noted that the                                                               
bill sponsor had requested that the committee hold HB 173.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER indicated that the  issue that HB 173 would                                                               
address was a valid one.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:21:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS said he  introduced HB 173 to close                                                               
a loophole,  but had  realized in the  process that  the loophole                                                               
was  larger  than he  originally  had  thought, applied  to  many                                                               
people, and there were many ways to look at the issue.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  remarked on the variety  of issues that are  heard by                                                               
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:22:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced that HB 173 was held over.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
15 CSHB77 v.H.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
16 HB 77 Supporting Document - Letter ACoA.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
17 HB077-DPS-PSC-4-3-15.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
18 HB 77 Explanation of Changes ver W to ver H.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
19 HB 77 Sectional Analysis ver H.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
01 HJR19 ver A.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HJR 19
02 HJR 19 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HJR 19
03 HJR19-LEG-SESS-04-03-15.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HJR 19
01 HB173 v H.PDF HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 173
02 HB173 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 173
03 HB173 Supporting Documents-Letter Ray Majeski 3 2 2015.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 173
04 HB173 Supporting Document - Letter AADA.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 173
05 HB173 Supporting Documents-Memo NCSL 2 13 2015.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 173
06 HB173-DOA-DMV-04-03-15.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 173
01 HB55 Draft A - Wrongful Conviction.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
02 HB55 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
03 HB55 Sectional Analysis.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
04 HB55 Supporting Document Alaska Statutes.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
05 HB55 Supporting Document Letter from William Oberly.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
06 HB55 Supporting Document New Jersey law.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
07 HB055-LAW-CRIM-04-03-15.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
08 HB 55 Supporting Document Bill Oberly Email.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
09 HB 55 Supporting Document Compensation by State (1).pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
10 HB 55 Supporting Document Compensation by State.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55
11 HB 55 Supporting Document PBS Article.pdf HSTA 4/7/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 55